Beyond Yacht Rock

The guys who made the internet show Yacht Rock talk about music other than Yacht Rock.


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JD Ryznar is a Hollywood writer. He knows very little about music, but enjoys imagining elaborate scenarios inspired by popular songs.

David B Lyons is a Hollywood Location Manager. He knows a little about music, but feels the need to compartmentalize genres, then rank them.

Hollywood Steve Huey is a former staff writer for, a former talking head for VH1, and currently the only unmarried man on this podcast.

Hunter Stair is from Flint, MI.


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The guys take an in-depth look at Steve Perry’s biggest solo hit.

Show Notes

Intro song: “Oh Sherrie” by Workout Remix Factory (Workout Mix + 130 BPM) (Amazon)

- “In Da Club” by 50 Cent
- Jazzercise



Yacht Rock Bone Throw: “Fool’s Paradise” by Randy Goodrum (Amazon)

- From the album “Fool’s Paradise”
- “Dandy” Randy Goodrum co-wrote “Oh Sherrie”
- Other Yacht Rock songs about fools
- “Heart to Heart” by Kenny Loggins
- Bruce Botnik produced “Oh Sherrie” and “Heart to Heart”
- Pop Bottle (and the Pop Bottle theory)|
- Dave Loggins
- “My Two Dads” (its theme song, in which Staci Keenan explains the entire premise of the show)
- “Lonely Teardrops” by Michael McDonald
- James Ingram and Michael McDonald (“Yah Mo B There”)
- Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald
- Goodrum worked with Toto and “The McDon”


Oh Sherrie
Example song: “Oh Sherrie” by Ameritz Karaoke Entertainment

Other great pop ballads: “I Will Always Love You” by Whitney Houston, “November Rain” by Guns N’ Roses, “Let It Be” by the Beatles, “Stairway to Heaven” by Led Zeppelin

- “Taurus” by Spirit (go to 0:44); a 2016 trial
- “Got to Give It Up” by Marvin Gaye (and “Blurred Lines” by Robin Thicke, and the decision)
- Steve Perry Soap: “Clean as all fuck”



10. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
“Oh Sherrie” as a burning, mature love song

- Barry Manilow divorce ballad
- “The power of love is a curious thing …”
- “The Flame” by Cheap Trick (Cheap Trick on “The Flame”)
- Cheap Trick album “Busted”
- Mecosta County Free Fair (Yes, it was Hollywood Steve’s first concert)


9. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: “Oh Sherrie” was the culmination of one man’s desire to bring his message to the masses

- Journey, first as the Golden Gate Rhythm Section, formed by Neal Schon, Gregg Rolie
- Santana
- Early Journey pseudo-prog
- Hard Organ- Steve Perry fixed chicken coops (well, working on a farm …)
- Perry’s former band Alien Project (working name Street Talk)
- Perry’s Alien Project bassist died
- “Patiently” by Journey (lyric sheet)
- Iron Maiden before Bruce Dickinson
- Journey album “Escape”
- Jan Hammer
- Neal Schon and Jan Hammer’s “Schon & Hammer”
- Steve Perry album “Street Talk” (listen)

8. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: “Oh Sherrie” was originally lost in the “maelstrom of pop culture” in spring-summer 1984

- “Street Talk” release date: April 1984
- Billboard chart June 9, 1984 (“Let’s Hear It for the Boy” by Deniece Williams, “Time After Time” by Cyndi Lauper)
- Movies of the time: “Gremlins” (June 8), “Ghostbusters” (June 8), “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom” (May 23), “Breakin’” (May 4), “Streets of Fire” (June 1), “Police Academy” (March 23), “Footloose” (Feb. 17), “Terms of Endearment” (Nov. 23, 1983), “Against All Odds” (March 2)
- Other movies: “This is Spinal Tap” (March 2), “Splash” (March 9), “Romancing the Stone” (March 30), “Friday the 13th Part IV: The Final Chapter” (April 13), “Sixteen Candles” (May 4), “The Natural” (May 11), “Star Trek III: The Search for Spock” (June 1)
- Music of the time: Movie soundtracks, “Purple Rain” by Prince (June 25), “Born in the USA” by Bruce Springsteen (June 4), “1984” by Van Halen (Jan. 9), “Thriller” by Michael Jackson (Nov. 30, 1983), “Can’t Slow Down” by Lionel Richie (Oct. 11, 1983), “Sports” by Huey Lewis and the News (Sept. 15, 1983), “Madonna” by Madonna (July 27, 1983), “She’s So Unusual” by Cyndi Lauper (Oct. 14, 1983)

- Other music: “Heartbeat City” by the Cars (March 13), “Chicago 17” by Chicago (May 14)
- Cost of an album in 1984: $15 (adjusted for inflation)
- Marvin Gaye killed in April 1984
- Sally Field’s Oscar speech … was in 1985
- Apple’s “1984” ad, and the new Apple computer Macintosh
- 1984 Chicago Cubs and Detroit Tigers
- Democratic presidential candidate Walter Mondale
- Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro

7. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: Production of “Oh Sherrie” lifts it to another level

- Executive producer Bruce Botnick
- Botnick also produced the Doors’ “LA Woman,” Love’s “Forever Changes”, Eddie Money’s first two albums,and Kenny Loggins’ “High Adventure”
- Composer Jerry Goldsmith
- Botnick worked on the original soundtrack to “Caddyshack” 
- Is Bruce Botnick the real-life Gene Balboa?
- Jonathan Kane synthesizer flourish
- Bad English
- Yelling into the Grand Canyon


6. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: Perry’s musicians (‘gigolos”) allowed Steve Perry to shine

- Musician: Larrie “Do Ya Wanna See My Socks” Londin (drums)
- Musician: Waddy Wachtel (guitar) (arrested on child porn charges)
“The Poseidon Adventure”
- Musician: Michael “Downstairs” Landau (guitar)
- Maxus (previous Yacht Rock Bone Throw)
- Musician: Bob “No Respect” Glaub (bass)
- Rodney Dangerfield
- Musician: Craig Krampf (co-writer)
- Musician: Randy “Just What I’m Worth Or Nothing” Goodrum (co-writer)



50 States in 50 Podcasts: Oklahoma
Song: “Self Defense” by Schon & Hammer (Amazon)

Other Oklahoma artists:
- Kristin Chenoweth
- Vince Gill
- Color Me Badd
- Leon Russell
- The Flaming LipsThe Gap Band
- Also referenced: The Mabee Center, Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame
- 1975 MG convertible
- Neal Schon’s “stupergroup” with Sammy Hagar: HSAS
- “Miami Vice Theme” by Jan Hammer



5. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: Inferior guitar work actually works for the song

- The SteveHole (Hollywood Steve Explains): Unison bends (YouTube example)
- Was there a conflict between Steve Perry and Neal Schon?
- Michael Jackson hiring Eddie Van Halen
- David Lee Roth hiring Steve Vai
- Gary Glitter (like Waddy Wachtel)


4. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: The video complements the song’s greatness

- Video: Full-length version of “Oh Sherrie”
- Video: Abridged version of “Oh Sherrie”
- Shot at the Park Plaza Hotel in Macarthur Park, Los Angeles
- “Wild at Heart” scene at Park Plaza Hotel
- “Naked Gun 33 ⅓: The Final Insult” scene at Park Plaza Hotel
- Video: “Strung Out” by Steve Perry is a prequel to “Oh Sherrie”
- “Dave TV”


3. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: “Oh Sherrie” is based on a real-life love story

- Sherrie Swafford (Steve Perry’s girlfriend)
- Origin story of “Oh Sherrie” (Randy Goodrum’s quote about Steve and Sherrie)
- Goodrum worked with Anne Murray (and other sappy/crappy songsters)
- “Faithfully” by Journey
- Sherrie finally responds … to a blogger
- Steve Perry’s beautiful nose


2. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: Dan Harmon’s distilled version of Joseph Campbell’s story circle

- Steve Perry’s “jean meat”
- Here’s the lyric sheet


1. “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry (Amazon)
Argument: Steve Perry is the voice of God

- “All I Want For Christmas is You” by Mariah Carey (Damnit, JD)
- “The Sopranos” using “Don’t Stop Believin’” by Journey
- Bad karaoke of Journey
- “Jean meat” in the “Evolution” back cover
- Steve Perry and Sherrie Swafford (all nipples and dick)
- Arena rock bands: REO Speedwagon, Foreigner, Asia
- Steve Perry’s vocal range
- Brad Delp’s vocal range
- “Foolin’” by Def Leppard
- Boardwalk 11, Palms, Calif.
- Jake Arrieta's no-hitter at Dodger Stadium, 2015
- “Don’t Fight It” by Kenny Loggins and Steve Perry
- Bonus: Other versions of “Oh Sherrie” that show, unequivocally, that Steve Perry is the definitive rock vocal god

Other proposed genre songs:
- “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry
- “Sherry” by Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons
- “Foolish Heart” by Steve Perry


Bonus Yacht Rock Bone Throw: “If Only For the Moment, Girl” by Steve Perry

- Is it Yacht Rock? Also Sultry Hits?
- From the “We Are the World” album
- “Hill Street Blues” theme song
- Randy Goodrum’s 1993 Yacht Rock album


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- Hosts: JD Ryznar (Twitter), “Hollywood” Steve Huey (Twitter), David Lyons (Twitter), Hunter Stair (Twitter)
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