Beyond Yacht Rock

The guys who made the internet show Yacht Rock talk about music other than Yacht Rock.


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JD Ryznar is a Hollywood writer. He knows very little about music, but enjoys imagining elaborate scenarios inspired by popular songs.

David B Lyons is a Hollywood Location Manager. He knows a little about music, but feels the need to compartmentalize genres, then rank them.

Hollywood Steve Huey is a former staff writer for, a former talking head for VH1, and currently the only unmarried man on this podcast.

Hunter Stair is from Flint, MI.


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The guys count down the best songs written by legendary songwriter Holly Knight.

Show Notes

Intro song: “One of the Living” by Tina Turner (Amazon)

- Take the Wayback Machine to Ep. 1: “Sultry Hits”
- Sexed-up sax man
- Jay “Fucking” Graydon
- Songwriter Hall of Fame



Yacht Rock Bone Throw: “Turn Your Love Around” by George Benson (Amazon)

- “Breezin’” by George Benson (part of the “Yacht Rock” soundtrack) (Pjazz)
- The Doobie Brothers
- Graydon, Bill Champlin and Steve Lukather (“Luke”) wrote this song
- Eddie Money and his greatest hits album
-’s description of how the song was written
- has hired “some wackos and perverts” to write its reviews
- Graydon’s real story
- It’s a myth that curry makes you defecate
- Beyond Yacht Rock is going live July 23 in San Diego



Songs of Holly Knight
Example song: “New Romance - It’s a Mystery” by Spider (Amazon)
Second example song: “Hanging on a Heart Attack” by Device (Amazon)

Knight, a collaborator, frequently writes songs about conflict within relationships. Her lyrics invoke pleasure from pain - “you can’t have glory without a good fight.” She took off in the heavily produced 1980s

- “Sexy Greys”
- Hexvessel
- Kyle Schwarber’s knee injury
- Hunnel State University
- Knight was the keyboardist and primary writer of Spider
- Anton Fig was the drummer of Spyder (also Letterman)
- Dionne Warwick
- Sadomasochism
- Mike Chapman (wrote for The Sweet, Mud, Suzi Quatro, also “Kitty” by Racey)



10. “Baby Me” by Chaka Khan (Amazon)

- Billy Steinberg (co-writer, “Like a Virgin” by Madonna, “True Colors” by Cyndi Lauper)
- Quiet storm
- Lowering Expectations 101
- Diane Warren is very “idealistic”
- “Saturday Night Live” sketch “I’m Chillin’”
- Chaka Khan has large breasts
- Chris Rock; Chris Farley


9. “Rag Doll” by Aerosmith (Amazon)

- When Aerosmith hits it, they hit it well
- Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Jim Vallance
- The original title of this song: “Ragtime”
- David Lee Roth
- “That’s so Holly!”
- Steve Perry
- Outtake of “Rag Doll” (before Holly came in)
- “Walk This Way” by Aerosmith
- Aerosmith is “not relevant” anymore, says the Rag Doll


8. “Obsession” by Animotion (Amazon)

- Lemmy “The Lurch”
- Murdoc (the bad guy from “MacGyver,” Michael Des Barres)
- Ronald Reagan, trapped in a well, Rubik’s Cube, Gary Coleman
- “Obsession” by Knight and Des Barres
- The movie “9 ½ Weeks”
- The movie “A Night in Heaven”
- Christopher Atkins (won the Razzie for Worst Actor)
- “Magic Mike”
- “Heaven” by Bryan Adams
- Miss Pamela (“I’m With the Band”)
- Michael Des Barres is son of British nobility
- “Rock ‘n’ Roll Santa” by Michael Des Barres
- Bill Nighy (“Love Actually” [watch])

7. “Love Touch” by Rod Stewart (Amazon)

- Auto-tune (listen)
- They “had too much fun” together
- Gene Black (guitarist of Device), “Spot the Porcaro”
- The movie “Legal Eagles” (watch)
- Video for “Love Touch”
- Rod Stewart doesn’t do “Love Touch” anymore
- Carnival, Rod Stewart is “a fuckable Ted Cruz”
- Neighborhood of Make Believe puppetRic Ocasek hair
- “Forever Young” by Rod Stewart (album “Out of Order”)


6. “Never” by Heart (Amazon)

- “Never” hit No. 4 on the Billboard Hot 100
- Brandy (who Diane Warren wrote for)
- Connie (turned out to be the Wilson sisters)
- Marquis de Sade
- “Big bag of dicks”
- J.D.’s story about not disparaging ‘80s Heart to Heart
- Slash
- More Holly Knight songs with Heart



50 States in 50 Podcasts: Arizona
“Finally” by CeCe Peniston (Amazon)

Other artists from Arizona:
- Alice Cooper (lives there)
- Meat Puppets (some of the best stuff from Nirvana’s “Unplugged in New York”)
- Captain Beefheart
- Dave Mustaine
- George Lynch (not the basketball player)

- J.D.’s Bob Seger shirts
- Phoenix is a bad place for professional hockey
- Arizona Music & Entertainment Hall of Fame
- Note: CeCe Peniston’s best song is “We Got a Love Thang”
- Waylon Jennings died in Arizona
- CeCe Peniston was crowned Miss Black Arizona; also, she won Miss Galaxy
- PSR B1257+12


5. “Better Be Good to Me” by Tina Turner (Amazon)

- Nicky Chinn
- Story about how Tina Turner agreed to “Better Be Good to Me”
- The movie “Rambo: First Blood Part II”
- The movie “Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome” (Turner is in it)
- “Breakfast Spaghetti Cheese”


4. “Love is a Battlefield” by Pat Benatar (Amazon)

- 99% of “Love is a Battlefield” was written in a day
- “That one thing”
- Divorcecore
- Video for “Love is a Battlefield” (same choreographer who did “Thriller”)
- Robert Plant
- No female Pats anymore?


3. “Just Between You and Me” by Lou Gramm (Amazon)

- Foreigner
- “Midnight Blue” by Lou Gramm
- “Oh Sherrie” by Steve Perry
- Knight wrote this song in one day


2. “The Warrior” by Scandal feat. Patty Smyth (Amazon)

- Nick Gilder (“Hot Child in the City” by Nick Gilder)
- John McEnroe (second husband of Patty Smyth)
- Richard Hell (first husband of Patty Smyth)


1. “Change” by John Waite (Amazon)

- John Waite album “Ignition”
- The movie “Vision Quest”
- Spider Stacy was the tin whistle player of the Pogues
- Hunter’s inspirational speech
- J.D.’s inspirational response speech
- David’s inspirational spinoff speech
- “Lunatic Fringe” by Red Rider
- MadonnaDio
- Hollywood Steve goes inspirational
- Neil Giraldo produced this song (Pat Benatar’s husband)

Other proposed genre songs:
- Neil Diamond; a punk song
- “Space” by Cheap Trick (Cheap Trick album “Lap of Luxury”)
- “Invincible” by Pat Benatar

Also: Holly Knight’s website; Knight’s photography website


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- Hosts: JD Ryznar (Twitter), “Hollywood” Steve Huey (Twitter), David Lyons (Twitter), Hunter Stair (Twitter)
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